# 261 Second meeting with the phantom of Jesus Christ. Answers to subscribers’ questions.
Premiere May 2, 2021
Participants:
Irina Podzorova – the contactee with extraterrestrial civilizations;
Maxim Rusan – the head of the Cassiopeia project and of the Center for Spiritual and Physical Development “Cassiopeia”;
Jesus Christ – the head of the Christian religious egregor on Earth, the Firstborn Son of God, our elder Brother;
Mirakh Kaunt – the representative of the planet Burhad, who is known in the Christian religious egregor as the Archangel Gabriel;
MidgasKaus – the representative of the planet Eslair, biologist, psychologist, specialist in alien life forms;
Vladimir Goldstein – a chief administrator of the “Cassiopeia” group, journalist from Chicago;
Maria Sokalskaya – a chief administrator of the “Cassiopeia” project.
00:02 Introduction of the meeting participants.
Irina, “Hello dear friends! My name is Irina Podzorova. I am a contactee with extraterrestrial civilizations. Today we have the second part of the most important conference with the phantom of Jesus Christ. Our curators are present: LeeSheony from the planet Shimore, MidgasKaus from the planet Eslair and representatives of Burkhad: Mirakh Kaunt, who is known as the Archangel Gabriel, and the phantom of Christ, he is already in a slightly different form. We’ve been talking with him and he’s said that the last time the phantom energy was 17% of his astral body, now it’s about 11%, that is, he’s decided to lower the energy somewhat because he believes that this also affected the quality of the recording.
Vladimir Goldstein and Maria Sokalskaya, the administrators and collaborators of our project “Cassiopeia” will be asking him questions, as they did last time.
Hello dear friends!”
Maria, “ Greetings”
Vladimir,” Hello, we are glad to see everyone and we very much hope that today our very important meeting will also be very interesting.
Maria, “Dear Jesus, the information from the Interstellar Union that you are not only an eternal Spirit but also an eternal body, is the most important news for the inhabitants of our planet and of course – a sensation. This fact caused a lot of questions from our readers.
Let us, please, ask a couple of questions about the life of your physical body. Is it possible?
Irina, “Yes, you may ask. He is saying he is greeting everyone.”
02:00 How is the everyday life of Jesus arranged?
Maria, “We welcome you too. Please tell us how your everyday life is arranged? Does anyone help you with chores, except for robots, given that the level of your vibrations is so high that very few can be near you?
Irina, “I live on an island, physically I am the only living sentient being there. Once every six to eight weeks, sometimes less often, students come over to me for a few hours, arriving by air or sea. The rest of the time I am alone.
There are 8 biorobots who help me in everyday matters, no one else is around.
Now, when I’m traveling across the Galaxy on a separate spaceship, as the representatives of the Interstellar Union have already said, the biorobots are also with me.
Maria, “Thank you.
03:15 Jesus’ favorite food, animal food. The eternal physical body of Jesus.
Vladimir, “Thank you very much. The next question I have is somewhat related to the first one: please tell us, what is your favorite food on Burkhad and what did you like to eat on Earth? Well, in addition to that, do you have the additional Tumesoutese genes that would allow you to digest animal protein and do you eat animal food?
Irina, I’ve inherited the genes of Tumesoutese through the body of my mother on Earth, who naturally had them by birth.
After the resurrection of my body and the destruction of the programs of death and aging, these genes remained active, since they did not include the death and aging programs. These are just the genes that code certain substances for processing material food.
I did not have a particular preference for food, because everything that God gave me through people in my childhood, adolescence and adulthood, I used with the same feeling of gratitude, felt strength and was happy about it. There were no particular preferences.
Now I live on the planet Burhad and my favorite food is milk of a local animal, which is mixed with pollen from some local flowers. This allows maintaining energy balance.
I can also eat fruit. I can eat meaty foods too, but I do it quite rarely for the simple reason that my body gets enough of the elements contained in the pollen of the local flowers. I eat meat together with the students who invite me to share their meal with them.
Now Jesus is traveling across the galaxy and during this travel, he might eat meat if he is treated to it. But when he is on Burkhad his main food consists of dairy products mixed with pollen and fruit.”
Vladimir, “What kind of meaty food is there on Burkhad, since, as I understand it, Burkhadians themselves do not use it at all because they just do not have those genes?”
Irina, “Yes, but aliens from other planets can visit them. Burkhad, after all, is a member of the Interstellar Union and those who use it can bring their own food with them. And they can also get to my island.”
Vladimir, “So it could be meat from some animals from other planets?”
Irina, “It can be meat from animals, fish, birds or sea animals, etc. It can be insects from the planets where they are used as food. Those are insects of rather large species on some planets, which replace animals for some races.”
Vladimir, “I see. Thank you so much!”
07:20 Limitations for Jesus. Abilities of levitation, teleportation.
Maria, “Tell us, please, are there any restrictions for you in this immortal body, established by God, the laws of the Universe or, perhaps, by yourself? And what are the qualities or abilities that, say, earthlings do not have?”
Irina, “Restrictions. What do you call restrictions? For example?”
Maria, “For example, levitation.”
Irina, “Do you mean by the word “restrictions” – a violation of physical laws known to earthlings?”
Maria, “Yes.”
Irina, “My physical body is not a subject to such restrictions, because it can control its energy and the surrounding part of space and time in unlimited volume, or rather, limited by my Father. And since we are one and the same, it means that it‘s limited by myself.”
Maria, “So this means that you have the ability to levitate, you can fly through the air, move objects?”
Irina, “ Yes, he is now showing me that he can disappear in one place and appear in another.”
Vladimir, “Teleportation.”
Irina, “He shows me that he can transform one type of matter into another.”
Maria, “Move in a physical body?”
Irina, “Yes.”
Maria, “Disappear and reappear elsewhere?”
Irina, “Yes, I can. I perceive my body as a type of energy and I can transfer this energy into another form of instantly moving emanation invisible to the eyes and then collect it in another place, even at another end of the galaxy.”
Vladimir, “That is, without any craft, if you wish, you can simply appear in a physical body on Earth?”
Irina, “Without a craft – yes, but when I travel on a craft and with biorobots, it shows that I behave like an ordinary humanoid.”
09:53 What the teleportation of Jesus looks like.
Vladimir, “Let’s imagine that you’ve decided to appear on Earth and what would it look like. For example, people are gathered, and suddenly in the midst, conventionally on a lawn, a figure appears as a physical body. Would it look like that? Or would there be some other effect when it appears?”
Irina, “Before I appear in a specific place on Earth, before dissolving, before passing into the form of emanation of my physical body, I must clearly imagine the place and time where I want to move to, because if I imagine only a place, but not the time, then my body can, for example, be damaged if a car is driving there or I can simply combine with a person and he will be thrown aside, because a certain energy is released there. And even more so in the midst of a gathering.
It is necessary to know precisely the time and place to imagine it, and only after imagining this place the body is transformed into emanation and by a mental order moved to the imagined place.
What would it look like externally?
He is showing me something like air and then a flash of yellow-white color and a person appears in that place.
What did the flash consist of? It was the surrounding atoms of air that released photons when they collided with the energy of my body, which was scattered as radiation.”
Vladimir, “I see. Thank you so much.”
Maria, “Does that mean you can go without air, underwater or in outer space?”
Irina, “If necessary, I can stop the life processes in my body for a really long time, but not forever, and this will require a waste of my energy.”
12:41 Levitation in the life of Jesus. Walking on water. Apostle Peter.
Vladimir, “Tell me, do you use your ability to levitate in the conditions of Burkhad? Can you just fly over your island sometimes, fly from the island to some city and back in a physical body?”
Irina, “Purely theoretically, I can, but since it takes a certain amount of my energy to overcome the gravity of Burhad or any other planet, the energy that can be spent on a completely different matter, for example on changing the vibrations of earthlings, then I am usually content with flying in the astral plane, this would be sufficient for me.
Vladimir, “I have one last question on this topic. What would an earthling need in order to levitate, at least to some extent? Would unconditional, total faith be enough or would something else be required?”
Irina, “ For people levitation is the direction of their power to suppress the Earth’s gravity. Gravity attracts the physical body with a certain force, and the vital force of a person, which is allocated to him every second of time, surpasses the force with which the Earth attracts his body.
I want to emphasize here – it does not surpass the entire gravity of the Earth, but precisely that part of gravity that attracts one’s body. And in order for this superiority of your life force to be able to lift you above the Earth, you just need to direct it. This requires visualization of how your life force pushes you away from the Earth. For this visualization to work, you need to imagine it, and doubts that the result could be achieved would scatter your life force in space and wouldn’t allow it to push you away from the Earth, that is – to shield you, your body, from gravity.
So, faith is the kind of force that helps you visualize and fulfill your intentions in any space and time.”
Vladimir, “Thank you very much! However, I shall clarify one more thing: the Apostle Peter did not visualize anything, so it seems that for him it was enough just to have faith to be able to walk on water until he doubted. Or did he use visualizations?
Irina, “Smiling. He is quickly showing me as if he were there now. Now I will put his response into words. Jesus, I am still in a physical body, so these fast mental images that you are sending me I need to translate into words.”
“In the evening, after talking to people we parted with my students. They went on a boat to fish: they made fishing trips at night too and they wanted to land on the other side of the lake by morning. And I decided to stay alone in order to meet with the captain of the Burkhadian spaceship. Mirakh Kaunt was there too.
Naturally, I told them that I wanted to be alone since at that time they were not psychologically ready for contact. I said that I wanted to be alone and pray to the Father.
They sailed away and I really did pray to the Father, then the spacecraft came down, we had contact for about two hours. I was transferred to Burkhad, there I had a conversation with one of the specialists of the commission on contacts and then I was returned to Earth and with my ray of the mental field, which I separated from my aura, I found the place where my students were.”
“Like a radar, he is now showing to me. Radar is an imperfect reflection of this ability. (Mirakh Kaunt just suggested an analogy with a radar).”
“I mentally calculated the point where my students were and saw that during the time I was away the wind had risen and big waves had risen. And I went to the boat across the sea. Why didn’t I fly? I didn’t want to just waste my energy, because, in order to walk, you need to suppress gravity less. I was wearing white clothes.
As you understand, when the wind rises and a thunderstorm begins, you can hardly see anything: there are no stars, no moon, no lanterns in the sea either, so the students saw me in another flash of lightning when I came quite close, about ten meters away.
One of them, I think I heard Jacob’s voice, shouted that a ghost was coming. Why did they say that? They called a species of plasmoids a “ghost”. Why was he yelling exactly that? Because for them it was an unusual and, possibly, dangerous phenomenon, since it was possible to expect anything from some Spirits of Nature, especially in the middle of the sea in a storm.
Hastening to calm them down, I said, “Be cheerful and courageous. It’s I, don’t be afraid of anything.” After that, I heard short negotiations, from which I caught distrust and interest. And the Apostle Peter, calling me a “Teacher”, said, “If it is you, command me to come up to you on the water.”
I scanned his mental field and saw that if I said to him: “Go,” he would immediately imagine how he would do it, this was his visualization, and he would have enough energy to take several steps. At that time I was already at a distance of five meters. I told him: “Go,” and I myself controlled his mental, psychological state.
What happened when he went? When he got up, I watched him. When I told him, “Go,” he completely believed that it was possible because he knew that I was God and could not tell a lie. And when he did this, his energy, his life force went down through the first energy center, through the legs and feet, and formed sufficient strength, protection, so that he could stand on water. And when he stood upon it, he really did not doubt.
He went and at first, he saw only me. He walked about three meters, at first, he was in such a state that he did not hear the sound of the waves and then he heard them, he looked down and saw that he was standing on the water without any support to which he was accustomed and the instinct of self-preservation told him that he was in danger. He couldn’t switch from that thought to the fact that he had done it.
The instinct temporarily, for some seconds, displaced the memory of what he had already done. Frightened, since fear – is a loss of faith, he dissipated the energy that held him and began to drown. He had two meters to go to reach me. I went up to him and asked why he doubted.
Once I got on the boat and they all questioned me in amazement, I told them the law of faith and about the power of the Earth, which can be suppressed with your strength in such a way, and during these conversations they did not even notice how we sailed to the other shore. For them, that time had passed unnoticed.”
Vladimir, “Thank you so much! I think this will be a very interesting detailed answer for all our viewers.”
Irina, “I just had a boat ride with them.”
25:39 About contactless conception. Krishna’s parents, conception and birth. Hercules. Zeus.
Vladimir, “We didn’t even count on it, but there it was described in detail how one of the greatest, the most striking miracles described in the Gospel took place.
So I want to go straight to the next question about another miracle. Your mother Maria told us about your contactless conception on the Burhadian spaceship. It was not just, as we would now call – artificial insemination, in vitro, a non-contact conception using a special device.
Is the same conception possible on Earth, not on a spacecraft? Were there more cases when similar situations happened in relation to other earthlings and are it possible in our time?”
Irina, “The very technique of introducing genetic information through a beam was quite widespread at that time and even earlier. For example, some children of earthlings by Burkhadians around 7,000 years ago were conceived in the same manner, for example, Krishna, who was a Shimorian, and some descendants of the Tumesoutese were born that way too. Beam fertilization itself was quite common at the time.
Now, this technique has remained in the science of the Interstellar Union but according to the modern law of the Interstellar Union such interbreeding of people and aliens for living on Earth, as it was before, is prohibited due to the fact that this will provide proof of contacts and everything that may happen afterward.
At that time the representatives of the Interstellar Union were mistaken for Gods. Now the consciousness is more materialistic, it will be perceived differently, therefore there will be other consequences.”
Vladimir, “Thank you very much! Did I understand correctly from the answer that Krishna was conceived in this way, through the ray, and there was no physical relationship between the representative of the planet Shimore and his earthly mother?”
Irina, “The earthly mother of Krishna had her husband on Earth, she was faithful to him. The representative of Shimore, who was the father of Krishna, simply gave the genetic material. He also had a wife on Earth.
The fact is that the Spirits from the level of the Highest Angels, no matter what planet they are incarnated on, have a completely different attitude to what you call ‘fidelity’. To them this is a connection with just one energy, shall we say, therefore they have a fine-tuning through the body to just one energy. And a connection with another energy, whether from another planet or from your own, can lead to dissonance of their energy centers and then to an inharmonious connection with the previous physical energy.
Why do they, especially the aliens, feel it? Because their sensitivity to energy influences develops from childhood.
If an alien decided to make physical contact with a representative of the Earth, then most often they were those aliens who did not have a relationship on their planets, and if their contactees on Earth did not have a relationship with a loved one.
Vladimir, “That is, Krishna’s mother had a relationship, there was love.”
Irina, “She had other children.”
Vladimir, “I wanted to ask, was there love with a representative from the planet Shimore, but not physical intimacy? True?
Irina, “They loved each other as spiritual brother and sister.”
Vladimir, “Where was this process carried out in order for Krishna to be born? Did they take her to the spaceship too?”
Irina, “On the spaceship. They had been in contact for ten years before.”
Vladimir, “ I see. I want to clarify once again – were there any other cases in the history of Earth when people were conceived that way, any names we might know? When did such contactless conception take place?”
Irina, “Krishna was conceived that way, as well as the one you call Hercules was conceived by the head of a Burhad’s base on Earth. Jurisdistically he’d already been living on planet Futisse, genetically he was a representative of the planet Burhad.”
Vladimir, “Is this the one we know by the name of Zeus or not?”
Irina, “Yes. For this conception, he used the same method for his contactee – placement of genetic material in the earthly woman. He did not come into physical contact with her, he had a relationship on Burkhad.
32:34 Conception of Confucius. The history of non-contact conception on Earth and other planets. Reasons for hybridization. Zeus.
Vladimir, “I see. And with regard to Confucius, please specify what happened there?
Irina, “That was the planet Disaru. Indeed, I know that there were several more such cases. In fact, there were several hundred of them, if you look at the entire period, before the war it was even more common. But if we take it over the last
12,000 years, then 200-300 cases would definitely be found.”
“He cannot list them all, because he simply cannot cover all of those studies.”
Vladimir, “Clearly. We still have many more questions.”
Irina, “He’s heard about Krishna because this is a Spirit familiar to him, they were mentors of each other; regarding Hercules and his father, only that he was a representative of the planet Burhad, and where he lives they talk about it.
Vladimir, “We know about Zeus, that he was a representative of the planet Burhad, who was already in a colony called Futissa. And from there he flew over here.
Okay, thank you very much! It is very interesting!”
Irina, “If you also look at our annals, the annals of the planet Burhad and the Interstellar Union, I am sure you can find many such cases because it was a fairly common method in order to obtain a hybrid with certain qualities for the embodiment of the Spirit with certain tasks. Besides, this is typical not only for the Earth.
On those planets which Interstellar Union comes into contact with and which are being prepared to join the Interstellar Union, they can also hybridize with the help of conception through a ray and the Spirits can come to incarnation in order to unite in nature the representatives of the Interstellar Union and the world that will join it in the future.”
Vladimir, “Thank you so much for such an interesting answer.”
35:04 Coincidence of the prayers of Our Father and Pharaoh Akhenaten. Jesus Christ and religious egregors of Ancient Egypt, Judaism, and Christianity.
Maria, “Yes, thank you. There is a legend that ‘Our Father’ – the famous prayer, matches the so-called ‘prayer of Akhenaten’ from Ancient Egypt. Did you have anything to do with the Pharaoh Akhenaten?”
Irina, “You know, at that time I had no direct contact with him.”
The prayer that you speak of as ‘the prayer of Akhenaten’ resembles the prayer “Our Father” for the reason that he realized it through his Higher Self. That is, this is a prayer to the Father as a request for goodness, for protection from evil in the form of that Light, which he saw in his soul.
How did he do it? In general, the prayer I spoke about contains the basic desires and needs of the embodied Spirit in relation to the heavenly Father.
And at the same time, the very structure of this prayer is built in such a way that it contains everything necessary for communication, that is each line of this prayer can be the beginning of that inner prayer that could be offered afterward.
Akhenaten learned this from his contact with the Higher Self and expressed it through the worship of the Sun, as it was in his belief system due to contact with solar plasmoids. But he addressed it particularly to the Father because he realized himself as a part of Him.”
Maria, “Thank you. Did you have any influence on the formation of a religious egregor in Ancient Egypt?”
Irina, “I’ve influenced the development of the egregor of Judaism and Christianity, the rest of the egregors developed out of contacts with plasmoid, humanoid civilizations, and the Spiritual world.
I could come to individual representatives of other religions in the ray of Christ consciousness through their spiritual heart, but in any case, I did it within the framework of their religious ideas.”
Maria, “Thank you.”
38:05 Monotheism. Polytheistic cults of religion. Bhagavad Gita.
Vladimir, “Tell us, please, why did the representatives of the Interstellar Union decide to give mankind monotheism, monotheistic religions, about 6,000 years ago? As I understand it here we are talking about the Vedic, not even Vedic, but about the Hindu tradition, approximately when there was a battle of Kurukshetra, or perhaps we are talking about some other spiritual tradition? By the way, which spiritual tradition was monotheism introduced first?
Irina, “Monotheism in a slightly different form than it is known on Earth, is typical for the worlds of the Interstellar Union, at least for those worlds that became the creators of your race. And as soon as the bodies of the first sentient people were created and brought up as children, they, naturally, were told by special educators about the world around them, about themselves, about God, about the Spiritual world. And the system of monotheism, the concept of God the Father as a being that is simultaneously in the external world, that is within the Universe and beyond the Universe and in themselves, such an omnipresent Spirit – this understanding was already laid in the first people by the first educators of those children. After all, they did not appear as adults at once.
After the known tragedy with the scientist from Selbet, who decided to interrupt the experiment and destroy the first people, using available to him at the time and seemingly fair method, but failed; then after that person was expelled from the base of Tumesout and Burhad, so that they could start building their own civilization since that was what people were created for.
Afterward, when their children were born and generations passed, they began to communicate with representatives of plasmoid civilizations, who seemed to them as “gods” – the word that can be translated as such somewhat luminous creatures. You might remember that the word “god” is akin to the Sanskrit word “bhaga” – a radiant, light being.
Why did they present themselves in that way? So that the energy of love, worship, reverence, and, for some plasmoids even sacrifice, supported them, nourished, allowed them to feel comfortable, gave them strength, and, in the end, simply delighted the hearts of those Spirits. Although they were incarnated in a different density, they still remained sentient beings who feel love, understand it, strive for it, just in such a form in which they could communicate with the Spirits in the third density.
And from that moment polytheistic cults of religion began their advancement. They were not yet such formalized religions, as we are accustomed to seeing them now; that is, there were no such temples, holy scriptures, priests who served according to the same canon.
When I say the word “cults”, I mean the religious direction of very diverse forms that differed in different localities at different times and the fullness of such cult depended, first of all, on the personality traits of the contactee, who was then, of course, not called a contactee, but a prophet, a shaman, a priest, etc in different places. Those plasmoids who were in contact with such people, in order to attract people to their contactees, they arranged, you would say miracles: they changed weather, eliminated symptoms and cured diseases, sent animals towards hunters, etc.
Controlling the animal world, the natural world, plasmoid civilizations created the appearance that the priests themself, the contactees, were in control of that. And seeing it people followed them. He would acquire a certain authority and from that, the first proto-tribes were formed, which had theocratic power. The priests served as chieftains.
Then it was somewhat divided, but the leaders of all the tribes, from which emperors, pharaohs, kings and other rulers later arose, much later, they always kept nearby priests, sorcerers, magicians, astrologers – those who were in contact with the subtle world.
And even now, at the present time, the situation has not changed much on Earth.”
Vladimir, “I see. Thanks a lot.”
Irina, “Why was it exactly 6,000 years ago? Now you are asking about Abraham. Do I get it right?”
Maria, “Right. About Judaism.”
Vladimir, “Let’s first clarify, dear Jesus. It is believed that the Bhagavad-Gita was written about 5,000 years ago, just at the time of the change of yugas and beginning of Kali-yuga.”
Irina, “Yes.”
45:53 The purpose and timing of the emergence of monotheism.
Vladimir, “I wanted to understand which spiritual tradition did monotheism first appear in, was it Hindu or some other and when did it happen approximately, using our timeframe?”
Irina “So, the question was: why 6,000 years ago it was decided to bring monotheism? Why did I bring it to the territory of modern Palestine? In order to form a people.
Why did Krishna bring monotheism to that particular country? In order to increase the vibrations of the people where he was; to reduce caste hatred of each other, hostility and such, since faith in one God would allow people to unite more and moreover, he showed the path of Love, the path of bhakti to this one God.
In general, the purpose of creating monotheistic egregors in the noosphere of the Earth is to unite people with a single idea, to direct energy to the development of spirituality, love; whereas in polytheistic egregors the energy of people is most often aimed at understanding what sacrifice to which god to bring in order for another god to intercede.
This gives rise to what you now call “magic”- magical thinking.
47:52 The time of Abraham. Moses. The burning bush.
Vladimir, “Well. Could you clarify when did Abraham live, approximately, as we know, it was the same Spirit which then came as Moses; and when did that whole story with the burning bush take place, if we use our timeframe?
Irina, “A little over 4,000 years ago.”
48:11 The Gita, The battle of Kurukshetra.
Vladimir, “Does this mean that the Battle of Kurukshetra and Gita was given earlier?
Irina: Yes, 300 years earlier.
Vladimir, “Everything is clear, thank you.”
48:30 The expected role of the monotheistic religion. Purposes of the Sermons.
Maria, “Thank you very much! You have already answered the next question a little, about the original plan and the expectations for raising the vibrations of an individual nation with the help of a monotheistic religion. Please tell me, how then should this plan be implemented in light of the fact that we now have several monotheistic religions? How should this bring humanity together and what was the original plan and expectation for the creation of several monotheistic religions?”
Irina, “Each individual nation, which a monotheistic religion was created in, naturally had its own language before the creation of that religion. In addition to the language, it already had its own culture based on some polytheistic cults, i.e. on the influence of some plasmoid civilizations as well as some individual priests and certain priestly associations with each other. And in order to introduce a monotheistic religion, it was impossible to introduce one for all peoples, since different peoples, different languages, different ideas existed already before its introduction.
What was the goal? In every nation preaching about the one, God pursued the goal that the image created in that egregor would help this person unite, and in the future representatives of monotheistic religions would meet among themselves. It was planned and is being implemented even now the idea that this is one and the same God, just under different names.
As I have said earlier, when you call God by anyone’s name, you are calling one of his countless energies. Therefore, all monotheistic religions are like a collection of books written about the same creature, about his energies, his actions, but by different people in different eras and with different worldview and combinations of meanings.”
Maria, “As our history shows, languages are not really a reason for separating religions. As you know, one monotheistic religion might include peoples of different countries who speak different languages.”
Irina, “That happened later. At first, you would need to spread this faith among one people, and then, when the books are written, you’ll need to translate them into the language of another culture, another country. By the way, this does not always work out correctly. Much depends on the translator. Often the translator becomes more of a commentator than a translator.
I just spoke about the beginning of the formation of a monotheistic religion in some nations. In order to form it, firstly, there must be some kind of a contactee who will transmit information openly, despite the resistance of the clergy, priestly class, which can be quite strong, and even more so, the priests are often pushed to resistance by plasmoids who lose their victims since people go into a monotheistic cult.
This new prophet of the new monotheistic faith had to be from a fairly high level, naturally, not only by birth but by an attained spiritual level. He had to be quite sociable, courageous, decisive, and in some ways even a tough person because a person of a different nature and his egregor would rather quickly be destroyed by certain forces that would through people resist the introduction of a new cult of a monotheistic religion.
Therefore, Abraham was found, later the same Spirit in Moses came again to revive his people, his religion, when he saw that enslavement in Egypt had already lasted 400 years, and accordingly, the Israelites, the Jews had already joined the cult of worship of the Egyptian gods. Naturally, since they had lived there for 400 years, i.e. again switched to a polytheistic pagan worldview.
And the Tumesoutese acted in the same way with Mohammed and I myself acted in the same way in the case of contact with Ezekiel, with Daniel, with Isaiah, and with many of my other prophets and contactees. It is always a contact at the personality to personality level. In rare cases there are several more contactees in the environment of the main contactee who can transmit information at the same level and at the same time will not compete with each other.Usually, this is the main contactee and a new egregor is formed around him. But the formation of a new egregor in time is always an interesting development of the structure of the energy-informational field, which is unpredictable in time. That is the multivariance of events for a new egregor exists and very often after several hundred or thousands of years, the religion that is formed on the basis of a small group of people, whose inspiration was the contactee rather little resembles his original ideas. Although they, of course, survived there in some form.”
56:07 Differences and oppositions of religions. Messiah, Mashiach, Great Spirit. Purpose of Judaism.
Maria, “Please tell us why the decision was not made to introduce the same monotheistic religion, i.e. not to change, introduce new postulates or expand them. As we can see now, the religions are looking for differences and opposing each other, or even waging wars against each other, rather than looking for what they have in common.
Irina, “I want to tell you that people tend to wage wars and wage them even in the same religion with each other. There are certain types of Spirits who need to go through the experience of resisting the conditions of their environment, whatever those may be. And in this case, they are capable of waging war over the spelling of my name.
Maria, “Yes, quite. We know that. But why was it decided to create new monotheistic religions?
Irina, “Which one, for example?
Maria, “First Judaism, then Christianity, then Islam. That is, the goal was not pursued …
Irina, “The purpose of Judaism was precisely my coming to Earth. I told Moses about it, he wrote it down in his book “Deuteronomy”.
That at the end of times – it was the end of times for them because for those Spirits who listened to that those several thousand years was the end of times. They lived, they were aware of themselves in relation to time, so I told Moses that the Messiah, Mashiach, the Great Spirit will come at the end of time and they must follow him and fulfill his laws. And through other prophets later, through my contactees, I conveyed the characteristics of that Spirit, which they would have to recognize.
Everything was written there in detail: which city and which tribe of Israel he would descend from and what special traits the Mashiach would have. Therefore the purpose of Judaism was precisely the birth of myself on this planet through that egregor.”
59:17 The reasons for the physical destruction of Jesus.
Maria, “… to change Judaism. That is to say, was Judaism supposed to smoothly convert to Christianity rather than forming a new religion which opposed the old one?”
Irina, “In my earthly body, when they wanted to stone me for preaching the love of God and for doing good on Saturday, breaking their holiday, I told them that the image of God that they had at the moment when I was speaking to them turned into the opposition of God. In Greek, it was ‘diavolos’ (slanderous, misinterpreted -διαβάλλω (“I slander”), from διά (“across”) and βάλλω (“I throw”)) – the devil. And they became very annoyed because in their understanding they worshiped the God of Israel – Yahweh.
Then I reminded them of several Scriptures that were given to Moses in the Torah and I told them, ‘If you still believe Moses, you would believe me because he wrote about me’. I said this not to ordinary believers in the temple, nor just to ordinary priests, but to the senior priests, who were obliged by their position to observe the fulfillment of the Law.
And, nevertheless, this only hastened the resolution of the conspiracy between the Roman troops and the top of the Jewish synagogue at that time about the physical destruction of me as a person.
1:01:33 Is Christianity a reformation of Judaism? The Law of Moses. Changing the canons in accordance with the vibrations of the Earth. New Testament.
Maria, “So, did I understand correctly that Christianity was conceived as a reformation of Judaism? Did you want to help improve the understanding of God?
Irina, “It was the New Law, the New Testament. It was not just a reformation, but a change of the canons of Judaism so that the new commandments, new laws could correspond to the changed vibrations of the Earth at that time. Since Judaism had already existed for over 2,000 years by the time of my birth and during those 2,000 years the Earth had made a quantum leap, so to speak, a transition i.e. made such a transition to another era, where there were other laws. For example, the death penalty for crimes was no longer required, which I showed in the case when a woman was brought to me, who was caught in the act of committing adultery. According to the law I gave to Moses, she would’ve had to be executed.
It was so at the time when I spoke to Moses, it corresponded with the vibration of the earthly race. But when I came in my own body it ceased to correspond to the new vibrations of the Earth. And realizing this, some of the guards, who were the servants of the high priest, brought this woman to me and asked what I would advise to do.
This was done in order to get me in a logical trap because following the law of Moses I was obliged to say that they must fulfill the law, as I gave it to him myself. But before that, I conducted many sermons among the people, in which, naturally, the priests had heard that that old law was to be abolished by the new Law of Love.
If I’d insisted on the fulfillment of the law, that is – on execution, I would not just contradict the words of my sermon, I would have ruined my cause, for which I had incarnated, altogether. Therefore I said the only thing I could say in that situation, ‘Who is without a sin among you, throw a stone at her first.’
I said this in the physical body, which you know as Jesus Christ, to those people, but to Moses and his brother Aaron and to all his descendants I did not say that they should check themselves for sins before throwing stones, because those were different times, they were naturally incapable of doing it. They had to go through the path of some social and spiritual development.
Each religion has a specific vibration matching its time. At that time Judaism would fit the vibration of time and place, then Christianity did. And when I said what I said they all left. I did not forbid them to stone her and did not order them to do it – I left them to decide for themselves. And they decided as it should be under the new Law. They listened to themselves and kept her alive. But when they left the matter did not end there, then there was a rumor that I was not just opposing the law of Moses, but I was doing it in a very dangerous Judaism way. That is, I was presented as an opponent of religion, destroying the foundations of the fathers and in such a way that they themselves could not oppose anything to me. “
1:06:57 Change of religion. Vibrational match to egregor, religion. The physical death of Jesus to change the vibrations of earthlings.
Maria, “Wonderful, wise answer. We all know it. I’m just trying to figure out, was Christianity planned to replace Judaism? That is, was Judaism meant to convert to Christianity. At the moment there is Judaism, Christianity, and Islam – all three religions.
Was it part of your plans to….”
Irina, “Such cannot be planned. Do you mean by ‘change’ the disappearance of one and the appearance of the other?”
Maria, “Yes.”
Irina, “That cannot be planned, because each religion corresponds to certain vibrations. The egregor would remain to exists. I understood perfectly well that some would switch to the new egregor both from Judaism and from the pagan plasmoid cults of the surrounding countries, peoples, but the egregor that remained had built up for over 2,000 years and became a rather strong energy unit.
It was simply impossible to dissipate it since its energy cannot disappear anywhere, it can only be transformed. Therefore only those people could stay in or join the remaining egregor who in their vibrations would match to this egregor.
What does vibration mean? I will explain because though everyone on Burkhad understands this, I do not see understanding from some people now on Earth.
What does it mean to “match the vibration of religion”? This means that those laws, not ceremonies, but precisely the laws, the position of religion must coincide with the internal moral law in the heart of a person, with his image of God and the laws of God that he is ready to fulfill. This is called ‘the vibrational match.’ Why did those people throw stones away and leave? Because within themselves they corresponded to the vibrations of the new egregor, the Christian egregor.
And why did the high priests – egregor’s servants decided to kill my body? Because in terms of vibrations at that time, they matched the vibrations of the old egregor, which was struggling with the new one. Both they and the egregor, as energy – an energy-informational unit, with their vibrations fought against the creation of a new unit, dangerous for them, which could destroy the whole structure that they were building, one might say, for 2,000 years.
I understood perfectly well what would happen, what I was going for. It was my choice to create this religion in precisely those conditions and at that very moment. I understood everything perfectly well, as I have already said, that there was a very high probability that my body would be executed in that way. I could have come in any other period in history through my mother. She could also incarnate through other people when there would no longer be such laws. But my choice was just that, in order to direct my energy to change the vibration of all earthlings. It was only possible to do it the way it happened.”
1:11:23 Scenarios for the development of religions. Why do Spirits need to go through the horrors of war, epidemics, and devastation?
Maria, “Tell us, please, did you see in the Timeline in the Spiritual World the scenarios for the development of all three religions, that they would confront each other, that they would wage wars, that this would lead to discord. Was such a scenario known?”
Irina, “Of course, it was known. But the point is that the polytheistic religions that existed before the creation of these religions did not diminish the discord.
I have already said that there were many groups of people in different tribes who vied with each other for the influence of one or another god, and this could easily turn into a war if only one follower of one god would offend the follower of another god in some way. Insult was more the feeling of the one who was offended, if, in his understanding, justice was violated.
All this happened due to the unconsciousness of people as spiritual beings. They did not recognize themselves as immortal Spirits, parts of God. And they did not realize their neighbor, the representative of another nation. They could be aware of the representative of their people as their brother, but they were no longer aware of the stranger.
There were such unconscious things on Earth and this is the period through which pass many civilizations.
Why does this happen? In order to understand that it is better to build peace, tolerance, respect for any life on any planet, it is necessary for many Spirits to go through the horror of wars, devastation, epidemics, hunger; in order to understand how terrible it is, and reach for the Light.”
1:13:38 Christianity. The reason for the emergence of Islam in the Arabian Peninsula.
Maria, “Please tell us, based on the experience of the polytheistic religions that you just listed, why the decision was not made to spread one monotheistic religion, maybe, taking into account the peculiarities of the climate, the peculiarities of the people, but carry one idea and the same principles?”
Irina, “This was done in the case of Christianity. I told my disciples that they should bring all nations to me through baptism, that is, with this word I opened the door for them to preach and at the same time i opened the egregor for people of other nationalities and religions, not just Judaism.”
Maria, “Why then it was decided to introduce Islam and not Christianity on the territory of those peoples?
Irina, “ Because at the time when Islam was introduced, Christianity was not accepted on the Arabian Peninsula. There were many Gods and Spirits there. Some preaching attempts were made, but they received a fierce rebuff, again, from the local priestly and government circles, who had feared losing power and influence. And, as you can see for yourself, it was necessary to introduce a monotheistic religion on a basis closer to the Arabs in order to unite them.”
Maria, “Thank you.”
1:15:34 Inconsistencies in the interpretation of the phrase “Your father is the devil.” How is an idol different from God? Trade-in temples. Metanoia.
Vladimir, “ Dear Jesus, thank you very much! I just want to clarify the last question. Tell us what exactly did you mean when you said to the Jews, ‘Is your father the devil?’ We are often asked about this and many interpret this in such a way that Yahweh – their Spiritual Father, is the devil, and then they can’t put it together, after all, you were Yahweh and you told them that he was the devil and, accordingly, the conflict, the contradiction begins.”.
Irina, “I told them this because their vibrations were a match to hatred, anger, rejection, which were incompatible with the egregor that I built as Yahweh.
I know there is a notion that I called Yahweh the devil, it turns out, called myself that. I shall explain.
That conversation took place almost immediately after one event (he is showing me the temple, you call it a synagogue; a courtyard filled with animals for sacrifices, and I came there because I often taught people in the temple of Yahweh, I was admitted there as a preacher after getting the initiation from a priest, a rabbi – teacher, since at that time I studied as a rabbi too. I received the initiation when I was under twenty years old, before baptism.
I came once again to the temple of Yahweh – to the synagogue, on a holy day when the sacrifice of animals was being prepared, the law of which was described by me to Moses and written by him in the book “Leviticus”.
So when I got there I saw that the temple, which should be a sacred place dedicated to prayer, itself turned into a marketplace. The law was being violated: animals were being sold and bought there. They disturbed the air with their smell and their groaning and bleating, stomping on the spot. I also saw that there was a special currency for exchange within the temple – temple money. In order for the believers to buy a lamb, a kid, or a dove for sacrifice, they had to bring their money with them and they had to buy temple money from the merchants within the temple, They changed their money there and got ripped off. I saw that, I felt the mental atmosphere of the temple. The fact that ordinary believers, with the knowledge of the priests, were deceived by the money changers, they were short-changed when the money was weighed on scales. Coins were already in circulation at the time, but money was also weighed on scales. All this together made me feel that I must cleanse that place of those energies.
I looked around, took several ropes lying on the floor to drive some bulls out of the temple, and reminded the priests that animals should not be inside. Then I approached those who change money and told them that they should be outside the temple since only believers in a state of prayer should be in and not the ringing of coins nor those negative thoughts of people who understood that they were being deceived. They were simply afraid to say that they had been given too little.
I said, ‘Clear the space of my Father’s temple’. Why did I say ‘my Father’s and not ‘my’? Because I do not separate myself from Him. But they said that I had no right to do that and then I knocked over the tables with their coins because at that moment I felt like cleansing energy.
I didn’t want to harm those people, but I felt that that space needed to be cleared of the negative energies that they brought there. And when the guards came running and the senior priests came I began to tell them the laws from their scriptures, the laws that had to be carried out in the temple, which they had broken. And then they saw that I was not breaking the law, but complying with it and fulfilling it.
All that happened in front of the people. They understood that they had shown their ignorance and non-observance of the law to the people and pretended that they agreed with me, but they’d harbored resentment, the evil within themselves and already then decided to take revenge on me.
And when they asked me why I allowed myself to put things in order in this way, I told them that my Father’s house should not turn into a house of commerce.
I considered and still consider it very important that the space where believers devote themselves to prayer, thinking about God, about their Father, should be free from the energies of the financial egregor. These are egregors with different vibrations. They can be close, but they should not mix their energies in order not to distract from the thought of God, of the Spiritual world or cause some unpleasant associations with their life experience.
There must be a temple in the temple. A house of goods or trade, or a store should be nearby. I told them that this could not happen in my Father’s house and only then the conversation touched on the subject that they were the children of Abraham, therefore they were doing his work. And in this context, I told them that their father was the devil.
Now tell me, if Yahweh were meant to be the devil, would I call his house, the synagogue, the house of my Father?
I was talking about the image of Yahweh that they’d created for themselves, an idol, one might say. How is an idol different from a living God? It is created by imagination. A certain image created by the imagination in the mind and heart of a person, which does not even prescribe any laws of the Spiritual world, complying with which the vibrations of the Spirit could increase. An idol simply requests that if you have broken the law, then you must make a certain sacrifice to its priests and that would redeem you, not an inner change and repentance, but sacrifice would suffice.
And such an idol, which had both the energies of the financial egregor and a sense of superiority, etc., they’d created in their hearts, inside the Jewish egregor, such an image of God. And, of course, in their minds too. And it was this image that I called the devil. And I continued, ‘…for he is a manslaughter, from the beginning he did not stand firm in the truth.’
Why did I call him that? The personality whom I called ‘the devil’ did not stand in the truth, although he was very close to me and we were, speaking your rather poor language, spiritual brothers. But he could not stand firmly in this truth, sank in his vibrations, and became ‘the devil’. And this image, which those priests formed, to whom I said, ‘Your father is the devil,’ – this image also led to destruction, to a decrease in vibrations, because it did not allow spiritual development, but simply allowed pretending to be pious and calmed a person’s heart reassuring that he was leading a righteous religious life.
Thus the changes, not just in behavior, but in those mental attitudes, which led to destruction, to crimes against oneself and loved ones in the absence of love in all forms – that was a religion of self-justification and covering up one’s low vibration states with the image of God. It was a devilish idea, because it would not allow to see the true God, who calls for Love, Light, for self-awareness and for true metanoia, repentance, and therefore, the correction of one’s actions in the Light of God.
And, naturally, my beloved son David knew that the sacrifice to God is – ‘A sacrifice unto God is a broken spirit; a heart that is broken and humbled God will not despise (Psalm 50 [51]:16-17).’ This indicated that a thousand years before those priests, David understood that the most important sacrifice would be metanoia. “
1:29:18 The first commandments were given to Moses. Technologies for engraving the commandments in the stone.
Vladimir, “Thank you so much. I think all of us will be satisfied with this answer, very detailed, detailed and, in my opinion, very convincing.
The next question: dear Jesus, please tell us, what were the very first commandments that you gave to Moses and recorded on the first stone, which he later broke after the story with the calf, and what technology was specifically used to apply those commandments?”
Irina, “He is showing me that there were two stones, He is taking the device and applying it with a beam. There is such a ray which melts the stone a little, under its action depressions are formed, as he is writing.”
Vladimir, “ So, it was, in fact, engraving in a stone?”
Irina, “Well, yes, it was like writing with a ray – letters appeared.
What commandments were there? There were ten commandments that I considered the most important. In general, the Torah contains many more commandments, but these were important to me as steps to me and as steps to the Higher Spiritual World. Naturally, those were words that they should worship only one God since this is a monotheistic religion; that they do not create themselves images or idols of anything earthly: no animals, birds, fish and such because often such idols and images were used by fans of plasmoid cults and, having made such an image, their energies would go to that egregor. Then the egregor, which has been formed by me would mix with their energy. It wouldn’t work.”
Vladimir, “So, those commandments did not differ from those that were later passed on to Moses? We are talking about the very first commandments engraved in the stone he broke.”
Irina, “No, they did not differ. Then I just did it again.”
1:32:10 On the likelihood of forced introduction of a new religion. The experience of the embodiment of the Spirit. War. Aggression.
Maria, “Tell us please, you yourself and the Interstellar Union were aware of the fact that the introduction and strengthening of each new monotheistic religion, first Judaism, then Christianity and Islam would take place by force, that is, with blood and sword in relation to the existing peoples and their religions. How was this supposed to subsequently raise vibration and consciousness to a higher level??
Irina, “The question is clear. Thank you for this question. Awareness of people at the time of the introduction of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, was at such a level that really did not imply practically any other outcome except war along the lines of probability on the Timeline. The point is that it was clear from the lines of probability that if monotheistic religions had not been created, then those polytheistic religions would still enter into military conflicts. It would‘ve been the same people conflicting, the same Spirits only for different reasons: seizure of territory, the struggle of different priestly estates, etc That is, the war that was fought for the sake of introducing a new cult would simply have been waged for a different reason: preserving their territories, for example, or revenge for some kind of an offense.
The aggressive energy that had accumulated in the egregors of the Earth had to find a way out in the active actions, otherwise, it would destroy the bodies of people.
The fact is that a physical war, a physical battle is only the last stage of the aggressive energy accumulated in the Earth’s noosphere.
First, there is a long period of aggression within a people, within a group, and only after a fairly long period of time does it develop into physical actions.
It was through monotheistic religions that a greater opportunity was given to get closer to the one God for each person than in polytheistic religions because it was said that there is one Creator and Father of all people on Earth, one God who is Love, to which you need to strive if you want to live in peace, as He is the King of the world. This was done, among other things, for the sake of ending wars, violence, and injustice.
Why do these things still exist on Earth after such a long time?
I want to remind you that the age of your earthly civilization is only one-tenth of the age of the more advanced races in the Galaxy. You still have a long way of development ahead. Many civilizations have gone through such periods of social upheavals and wars. And I also want to say, that the Spirit that is born on a certain planet in a certain historical period is sure to be acquainted beforehand with the fact that military actions are possible with some degree of probability, actions in which he will most likely participate if he agrees to incarnation. Or if there is some kind of epidemic or some other disaster that can lead to a premature exit from an incarnation. For example, the term of incarnation for a certain Spirit is 75 years, but there might be a possibility with a probability of 70% of military actions in the territory of incarnation. If the spirit is born a man there is a certain degree of probability of his participation in those actions with a certain degree of probability of a fatal outcome.
Before an incarnation, such approximate plans are given to the Spirits to see in mental contact with their Spiritual mentors.
Many Spirits who need to harmonize, process in themselves the energy of aggression and learn, for example, to love enemies, to come to terms with the loss of a physical body at any age; that is – to completely trust God; they choose the experience of embodiment in such years of instability, conflicts, revolutions.”
1:38:23 The religion of the Interstellar Union. The purpose of human life on Earth.
Maria, “Thank you. Tell us, please, what forms of religion, beliefs of interaction with God prevail on the planets of the Interstellar Union?
Irina, “The inner religion of Light, when from childhood they teach a child to seek that law of God, which is embedded in the spiritual heart of every rational being.”
Maria, “That is, you can say, a monotheistic religion?”
Irina, “Not monotheistic, nor polytheistic – it is not theistic at all, it is like merging with the Divine Light and the desire to become its conduit into the material world. As if feeling like one whole. This is what I was talking about in the Sermon on the Mount, I gave some postulates from the Spiritual guidelines of the Interstellar Union. This is when I said that your Light should shine before people. That was one of the main commandments.
And then I said that the purpose of human life on Earth in the pursuit of endless perfection. Not the perfection, the idea of which I was, but the perfection like that of my Father. And he is the Absolute Love. And this idea of the perfection of Absolute Love, Love for oneself, for one’s neighbor, Love for God, I preached every day and every hour by word, deed, and thought on Earth.
And now I raise my vibrations together with the vibrations of people who connect with me through the sacrament of communion. I raise the vibrations of all of us together so that everyone can feel me in their heart and feel like me, and to feel me like them. And to feel that we are all one in the Light of God, and the person whom you look in the eyes is me, and those, perhaps harsh, rough words that he says to you are the same energy of Love, but distorted by the perception of this particular part of me that doesn’t realize it.”
Maria, “That is, a new stage of divine knowledge, of divine perception.”
Irina, “This new step was given 2,000 years ago!”
Maxim, “Well, well, at this divine level we shall probably finish this conference. Thank you so much!”
Vladimir, “Let Jesus address us, if possible, if he has something to say beyond our questions, and we shall finish this conference with the hope for the next one.”
1:42:06 Jesus addressing us.
Irina, “He is saying, ‘I like your questions, questions from subscribers of the Cassiopeia project and your selection of them. They are very important for every person because everyone wants to know the nature of human sins manifested through religion because this is the main reason that can alienate a person from religion. And therefore, these questions are very important: how violence could be allowed in religion, for what purposes and why such decisions were made that led to wars, and why there are wars at all on Earth or on other planets. What is war in general?
These questions about aggression and about the energy of aggression, about its application in the earthly world, are very important since there is still a lot of energy of anger, condemnation, struggle in the egregors of your world, which is manifested in the consciousness of individual people. I want to remind you that physical war is just a reflection of the spiritual war that is going on at the mental level between different levels of consciousness.
As long as there are wars between minds, it is impossible to end the wars on the physical plane. The reasons can vary one religion, many religions… People who are infected with the virus of aggression will manifest it in any environment and it can settle only in those minds that are in a state of constant dispute and resistance to the surrounding world.
This is a certain type of Spirit who are learning their lesson of inner peace, meekness, humility, humbleness, acceptance in peace. Well, of course, all those qualities are contained in one huge word – LOVE. This is the Light that is in each of you.
I am ready to meet with you every month and answer your questions through Irina Podzorova as a contactee and I also communicate with other contactees in the form of phantoms or Christ consciousness. I already know how many of my contactees will watch this video and I want to remind you that the panacea for war and violence is in you. This is the Light of Love that everyone is now feeling, having watched this video.
I am sure that you have touched this Light, but it is not so much in Irina, and not so much in me as in you. It is your own Light. If you always, under any circumstances, stay in it, and every person would do this, then any wars, injustice, corruption, violence, and all other criminal and lawless structures of your society will simply crumble as unnecessary and the energy of their egregors will pass into the Light.
This was the purpose of my incarnation and is the purpose of each of my increases in vibration when connecting with you. I feel everyone who communes with me, partakes of my body and blood. I feel your troubles, sadness, aggression, happiness, tears, your children, and grandchildren.
I’m with you. And I am you.
And when you realize that you have become me, you will enter the Interstellar Union, and your Soul will enter the Kingdom of Heaven .”
Translated: https://youtu.be/XZ62Prh43pg
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